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that's a a would be better if we could put it into the ground if it's not at all
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i know it was working the fall alright so i am
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what is it uh i yeah yeah
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right i ah i'm gonna tell tell tell it either this story about what i think is it
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missing in in current in there for about a human like politics and
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oh i'm flying the remote this should work force the problem ah
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a tense in more than thirty years of the subjective perfect you say
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idea would be to make about more human
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so ah ma all of the politics these
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parts involving probably yeah i like school happens the
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supply simon supply side and you don't need your uh that can ask application
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and now we're uh not just proposed to be of the whole that's that with
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designed to make you human being uh not necessary to do in
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human to ask ah and leveraging on tax law in france angie
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in my bet is that it's not unlikely that you succeed so
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oh that's me wants us to pick you still work a
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sort of that uh too expected that you know sooner than later
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uh the well and was deep says you don't change make it looking like some direction
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would be in the longer term than you think well is i can seem of foundation science fiction
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no and uh another a segment of the market features a
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bunch of so full of a vertical virtual platform marketed as compact
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t. a.'s he said we know you know a working of the bottom the topic for the confidentially
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the truth of the matter is that those so
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called empathetic for but essentially leveraged human tendency for
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on trouble fees and we actually did you know life to
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empty shells and the result is often if not general uncanny
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rusk sometime so oh that's not right but
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okay that's not working i'm sorry i
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and uh it's not mine's i switch between different strains remote so that's the the supplies and
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so we find that file which is nice because now because
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might come along blessings like preferred preferred stock price so then
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the question is how can we make for some human well it's not a matter how documents of many
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ah it needn't somewhat desolation you abuse but it's the
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most complicated ones that they needed mine like ours can be
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of course if they were be functioning internally as we do somehow
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uh but we hate him enlightened passions less important interfaith ability
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to bonding that's really important not trust and acceptance in the machine
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but if we push that i have false huh that's what it was
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like to be to model human consciousness that's not an easy task force
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working with ah should we trying to use you painted agents
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machines effect rule supposedly super intelligent we sat next thing wage
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capable of solving complex test well i think that yes and it's actually two different
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problems yeah related down many countries people that on that should be asked not around
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inconsistent with a thirty five year in fall of illusion that's a beautiful things like
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relations like the munitions that we see much bigger and went to the to the either
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well somehow so before the jar harms
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others that uniform will do meaning meaning and
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as a matter of fact ask you want a a i a systems only me nick unconscious
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processing in the brain in a very crude very basically i'm acted in the hosting untouched initially
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yeah they're very very five hundred and and so on
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so my my my approach to exactly to you know start from the beginning when we need to make babies for us
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you know why they don't even spiegel walk yet in
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their intelligence is mostly potential dry lawson hole for inter
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subjectivity into such a book really to you like the
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difference child of cheating star should not get that first
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why wait reports to the problem two sets the stage and if you sense of what do seeing
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sorry somebody would be the technical but they could intuitive stuff from the general a more active in france
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that's my collaborate over consistent as they brought the concept is rather simple is not simply a
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way of saying and actively formalising but that that
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we'll probably end up with the them somewhere where
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the relation about shield consequence you'll see that we act and
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of course that we are confronted innovative check like you know
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sense of unity don't it that often so we are mistaken
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gaze dictionary or nothing because i think if we entertain which is
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it and that quantify basically the divergence between expectations and something
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confrontations essentially that's in that can lead to feedback and that the machines the system
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oh that's gonna have to choice we can just update will be and sometimes oh
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or we can just don't know why i wasn't in so systems like that they made him that fit
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that's like that's a so anybody that's consciousness is actually
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something that participating is at the centre of active in france
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whatever you say about consciousness wasn't good but you know ah
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it's like a global workspace that's integrated human down the
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information hormones since he's a money don't overproduction and then see
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a system that would be conscious according to some should
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into integrated income and well what their imagination capacities attention capacities
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planning in motion as an evaluation of land we're about enforcement learning
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also have with me or it's your point dependent in probably that way we can
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to foster aesthetically speaking ability we can think all those expecting evil on from different places
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that led to the modern interior minorities making inference about them on those things of all that
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but the more fundamental question that pertains to you know experiences
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how can we understand them um something right and what is the phenomenon if you were right
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one aspect of it which is really abuse instead of that
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week that everything within a screed dimensional subjective space in perspective
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but just about visions that computer vision determined what is pleasing aspect or sensing informing
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and so how that's a bit perspective can play all a new man saigon it takes that's one of the question
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when things that will you live together as we discuss that is that consciousness of some aspect of it hasn't humid
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and it's not not yet you know please leave i mentioned that to you
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is it humid here of respect even in the three d. uh that you will know well
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in the two d. v. action i'll bet it i mean but here we are talking about is hidden in a nice
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anyways project difficult to me to come to the
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call of transformation mathematical concept that actually lose perspective change
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and if you wanna get to know yeah i'll when it's dimensional project space
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give us the work of a lesson while i might i might pay yeah
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nice that's sort of what we now have a yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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like journey actually uh yeah it's like that in this quickly so that they are really that consciousness thank you
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that but usually we don't see it you know we see them from the
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right point of view on this basis we can define concept start defining the concept
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that we can put the field of countries yes that we operate transformation of information
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perspective like to even while formation is
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a four dimensional uh operating full dimensional space
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what does that mean with that didn't just say you know wait a minute for like mention a space
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but it's actually a perfectly computer goes right in here you can see the sort of effect when you
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why yeah movies uh the bahama go because what i mentioned that
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happened in the simple one whether you have any somewhat psychedelic experience
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uh the well response file anything like properties that are pippin this you must feel when pollution
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and it's also have properties like right in i. c. facilities so that if you look at something
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yes actually talked about this and she wanted me and you look at something
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or some some somebody it will automatically and missus lane here that back self
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that is sort of something would be important for understanding the basis of self consciousness
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well but that's why most of the time people act in a much more constrained manner
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you know so that we can act on the web and yes you
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object an adaptive man when you're playing or principles to guess what do
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my latin is my collaborator you can for instance understand a variety of
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passive tradition in like the moon illusion in separated it is if you can
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might want to make quantitative predictions that you can compare with
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different experiment to demonstrate their predictive power of the p. o.
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but that's all fine e. in we knew his
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opinion on your knee a sky well five understand whole
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we're berating seven demo appraise on file and try one of the things we know with the psycho physics
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somewhere with five intensity of emotion you will feel tends to be it's
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not that simple that before the lower than invest distance to the students
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so basically this to missus palmer no one's lesson move mountains also
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like today under some constraint of embodiment is germany on tape but no
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so how many thoughts thinking about the scene for more than forty
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rile you cannot buy into function on the ethic to sign on
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so something bigger because part is closer to knowing
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bands might affect people separate c. depending on it but
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but uh also and it just a regular which is very essential actually
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uh when you come by being actually in projective geometry what you get
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is that the fire ah and and or infinity associated with more sensibly uncertainty
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windows machine it won't use uncertainty in there but we were in fact
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the one infinity you have accidents can secure use it is i think
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and it shows in an interesting thing about it is that
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but it doesn't need to work with that when sings come
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faster closer to you according to this process that meaning related energy
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and when it comes so which is actually a consistent wheeze
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the way we experience the far yet in proceed you know like
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cheese when the seasons and begin wanted to get close very fast
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and that's exactly something that is sort of to really to see stands at that
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time that i see that one since that get us and that's very curious about that
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yeah we also naturally generalised to simulation or so months
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no this is that instead of using their own model of internet preference
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will apply and unfair things on their behaviour and emotion expression
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models of fifty ones that i know that and use them to simulate the mind
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was and i think i'm gonna say well okay interesting this is all day or
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but i'm gonna show you any proof of come they could even any proof of concept actually whoa that's something i think
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what you know they actually forgot because i'm not not in my lap to do that ah and yeah it's an example
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we consider a few of them
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oh that's that's the agent one issue
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and i made a a a while or a source of c. e. season but ah
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e. e. so now i get it
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and as a result into you know state of joint attention behaviour
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so it's very important to development objective function yeah
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your because for instance in the gym spectrum disorder
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this is something that he is how does not the plot very well insistence that respected interest
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so let's consider another example here that he shouldn't
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negative bias so i you know hua light agent
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you so it's still even while but see that agent it doesn't like it but it's not okay
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we ought to minimise its own financially because it takes into account the simulations that it makes a user agents mine
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unanticipated user agents actor you would only three energy increased
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you too close to the regions as a result it tends to to to use trajectories that i'm more into it
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it's is avoided a bit like as if it was socially and shoes
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let's look at the last example huh
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this time i really we can both night but well we live so
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that they can only act upon that for your beliefs about the location
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one doesn't know so you know it based
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on the algorithm but we basically you good
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he's with me but doesn't want to go the only way for it to kind of
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not increases funding in f. b. i. e. is to move away three run
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by it's good because it or if ah but not with digits with you
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in a judge okay let's see let's institution but agent when what we missed it
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regularly that you know as a bit on the location of the people choose
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well uh you know that agent you don't like to go mistakenly
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while one q. which faced the way for it and so it can now reminded me
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not getting closer to that you prefer what that is is you know it's taking advantage of
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what i understand of wizards full speed if which is very important in charge of it not
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so when you asked illegal psychologist in training using it s. that we're
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developing real couldn't asimov test inspired from clean you can and developmental psychology
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right the agents that the seven that it it was what happened is that ages in which we enable
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these protective mechanism yeah rated as you know looking
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as if they be i've gaining more like human beings
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innocent looking more polite than agents that have much more limited mechanism of
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projection based on the combination of that geometry that global transformation mission process
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you know if we continues going that way the gold he's even though
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we are very far hunting in texas that a lot of difficulties in china
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that will be able to create about the chip illusions is human
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that problem by projective times a bit like us
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ah but that actually use for nominating committees that are
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capable of human like on pets in in anyway on for size the light it's not human rights but
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it is go around based on what we believe actually governed human on but to to some extent
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so i've always out interact with them even more
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natural ah into who you go to understand them in
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perhaps also to understand the can understand us think ah
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lawson mistakes we make because that'll be on humanity of
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what we share and how we connect is by precisely understanding was a mistake in when we laugh about it
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then the on where to have patience isn't there you what is
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um spectrum uh uh does although by minimal shooting fun interactions fostering
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joint attention behavioural but also was well for you
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elderly population often use related something with my cognitive impairment
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by giving them also this sort of social objectives stimulation
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that we know we still important still recognition in resilience
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a lot of applications so where you only thought of crude proof of concept market
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so i think i was in the end if yeah i would claim
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doesn't it is scientific and technological horses as an introspective us
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it's not nice to but you really need to die down
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deep into your mind if you want more than in in that's not an easy task you cannot learn that in school
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of course is where will they be very active interest
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nike psychology isn't genus mathematicians in that an insistent that
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we need great mathematicians i'm lucky to collaborate with some of them but that doesn't mean of course
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they're facing this kind of project the model in a while but for the real world is nontrivial task
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but we can liberate and some of the really amazing technology that that in the plot
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into complied and finish developing the principles in that picture
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it's also important to extend them uh with language intelligence in
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spatial skills is fertile down the whole you have some idea of
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what this idea about how to do that but that's another story so that will be able to get folks thank you much
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thank you very much maybe it was a very interesting very curious are so big
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seems so very unlikely to model his they
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use these emotions ought to have behaviour like a
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motion so it's aren't you very much for